How Long Does It Take To Build A Community?

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I received an email from a reader who wants to know how long I think it will take to build a successful blog. The simple answer to that question is it depends on how long it takes to build a community.

That is because I see community as being among the core tenets of a great blog. A good community provides you with readers whose comments help to advance the conversation and whose collective wisdom generate additional ideas for future posts.

A good community is warm, inviting and welcoming. It is a place where newcomers are happy to spend time and welcomed with open arms and that is why I responded to their question as I did.

What do you need to do to build a community online?

One of the best ways to do this is to go visit other blogs/boards/online communities and to start leaving thoughtful comments in those places.  If you do that consistently you will find that people will want to learn more about you and they will come visit.

Don’t be the guy leaves three words about the post they are commenting on and fifteen about how you just blogged about the same topic.

Communities don’t spring up overnight. One of the reasons I like the Spin Sucks community is because Gini is honest about what it has taken to build it. She’ll tell you that it didn’t happen overnight.

One of the things that I try to do in conjunction to leaving thoughtful comments is to link to other bloggers. When you do it properly it can be another very effective way to introduce yourself to others and potentially create interest in becoming a part of the community you are building.

And by properly I mean you do it in a way that makes it clear that you aren’t linking to them for the purpose of link juice but because you found their post to be interesting, valuable and worth sharing with your readers.

Do you see how that is tied in with the idea of leaving thoughtful comments? People like to feel valued and appreciated and links are a useful way of showing your appreciation.

 A Roundup of Posts Worth Reading

Each of the posts below are tied into the theme of this post. While I may not agree with all the points that are made in these you are highly encouraged to go read them.

  1. Why I Remain on the Ad Age 150 Blogger Index
  2. In Social Media, No One Cares Unless YOU Care
  3. 10 Reasons Why Your Content Doesn’t Attract Links
  4. The key to online success? YOU
  5. 3 Simple Ways to Expand Your Blog Through Social Media 
  6. 10 Reasons No One Notices Your Blog Comment
  7. Is Your Marketing a Wolf in Sheep’s Clothing?

But How Long Does It Take To Build a Community?

The answer is “I don’t know how long it takes to build a community.” I can talk about what needs to be done and whether it is being properly executed but I can’t give you an exact time frame and that is ok.

This is a marathon and not a sprint. The blogosphere is littered with rotting carcasses of blogs that were once among the bright, shiny objects screaming for cyber love. There is low barrier to entry here and the myth that you can go viral overnight is still being promoted by all sorts of people.

What that means is you need to be prepared to spend some time working on building your blog and building your community. You need to accept that it takes time to build relationships with others and that it is ok.

If you are honest and open with the community you are building you will find many rewards come from it. Members will be forgiving of the posts that aren’t home runs and will do what they can to help you.

Take care of your community and they will take care of you.

Now what are you waiting for? Go out there and start building relationships with others.

Two quotes to send you on your way:

“All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.

From the ashes a fire shall be woken,
A light from the shadows shall spring;
Renewed shall be blade that was broken,
The crownless again shall be king.”

― J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring

“No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. If a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as if a manor of thy friend’s or of thine own were: any man’s death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee.”

― John Donne, No Man Is An Island

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By Joshua Wilner

Hi, I am Josh Wilner and I am happy that you have decided to visit my corner of cyberspace. I am a writer/marketer/friend and family man. My professional background includes more than twenty years in working with businesses to help them do a better job of connecting with their existing and prospective customers. More specifically I have worked with companies of all sizes from the Fortune 500 to the new start up to help them build, develop and grow their social media and marketing plans. I love spending time with my family and friends. I enjoy music, reading, writing, playing sports and laughing.

8 comments

  1. One of the things I’ve been thinking about a lot lately is your community changes. A lot of the people who were in the community in the beginning, I still talk to via other social networks, but they’ve moved on to other things (other than Howie – he’s been there forever). So I think it’s important for people not only to be patient when building a community, but to also know why they’re doing it and be okay with the fact that it will change, evolve, and grow.

    1. TheJackB – Someone complained that this page doesn’t tell you what to expect to find here in this blog so I aim to rectify this with the next line. I am a father who writes about life, parenting, business, politics and fiction. I don’t use an editorial calendar because I don’t map out what I am going to write that far in advance. The primary focus will be on things that relate to children and parenting. But the nifty thing about that is that encompasses a wide range of things. Sometimes I work with companies on their PR/Marketing efforts. If they provide products or services I will disclose it. Here is an incomplete list of companies that I am currently or have recently worked with: Nintendo, Philips Norelco, Subway, Frigidaire and Mattel. Want to know more about me, keep reading. If I wanted to provide a professional description it would looks similar to this: Jack has a Bachelor of Arts degree in journalism from California State University Northridge. He has been writing for print and web publications for more than twenty years, covering a wide range of topics including: business, technology, parenting, politics, education, sports and religion. That is far too serious so I prefer to use something like: The Jack B. is a writer and author of 39 unpublished books and three screenplays. A former athlete and would be superhero he still fights for truth, justice and the American Way. Though he may look like a grown man, don’t fool yourself he is still a boy at heart. When he is not engaged in Walter Mitty like fantasies he is a husband, father and friend and blogs at TheJackB. Hmm…obviously I have since moved from Random Thoughts over to this place, but that is ok. This page is a work in progress which is a good description for me. I’ll probably tweak this on a regular basis so feel free to keep checking back in because you never know what might show up. I am a prolific writer and update frequently so don’t forget to scroll down the page to see what nugget of wisdom you just might have missed. Here is a short selection of posts to get you started. A Father Describes Parenting A Father’s Burden How Sister’s Helped to Train A Father of “Daddy’s Girl” Inside the Blogger’s Studio- A Dream, Er Nightmare The GermoPhobe What I Dream About I am In Love Becoming a Dad Dad’s Most Important Job A Decade of Dad Grandpa Donuts Why Your Post Sucks and Everyone Hates Your Blog A Letter To My Children- Things That Matter A Letter To My Children-2011 Dad Balances Fear Versus Reality Q&A With Daddy Blogger JackB Save The Last Dance For Me- 75 Years of Marriage An Uncertain Certainty Four Generations & A Wedding The Best Thing My Father Ever Said To Me 1 Foolproof Way To Become a Better Writer The Story Of A House- The Final Days He Died A Hero Twenty-Five Links That Will Make You A Better Writer/Blogger Thanks for coming by, I hope you like it. If you want to reach me use the contact form or try talk-to-jacknow-at-gmail-dotcom You can also find more information by clicking About Me and reading my profile there. Also, I encourage you to sign up for my newsletter using the form on the top right hand side of the page.
      Josh says:

      @ginidietrich:disqus That is very true and as bloggers we are very much a part of that. As we grow and evolve as writers that impacts our readers and sometimes we shift gears which pushes away some and pulls in others.

      If you look through certain blogs you sometimes see the people that used to be the anchors of the community disappear.

      I think in addition to being aware we need to pay attention to whether we are churning and burning people. If you want to build a community you have to pay some attention to how they respond to what you write/share/do.

  2. Hey Josh

    I like the idea of linking to posts in the way you describe. I must admit I’ve only done it a few times but I can see the advantages for both parties.

    Building a community definitely takes time and there’s no point in trying to run before you can walk otherwise you’ll drive people away. You have to consistently post to your blog though otherwise people look interest but also go and visit other people’s blogs and take the time to make some thoughtful comments.

    I have to say I’m not a big fan of Disqus or any other commenting system where you have to log in to make a comment. I think it puts people off rather than makes them want to comment.

    Thank you for sharing!

    Tim

    1. TheJackB – Someone complained that this page doesn’t tell you what to expect to find here in this blog so I aim to rectify this with the next line. I am a father who writes about life, parenting, business, politics and fiction. I don’t use an editorial calendar because I don’t map out what I am going to write that far in advance. The primary focus will be on things that relate to children and parenting. But the nifty thing about that is that encompasses a wide range of things. Sometimes I work with companies on their PR/Marketing efforts. If they provide products or services I will disclose it. Here is an incomplete list of companies that I am currently or have recently worked with: Nintendo, Philips Norelco, Subway, Frigidaire and Mattel. Want to know more about me, keep reading. If I wanted to provide a professional description it would looks similar to this: Jack has a Bachelor of Arts degree in journalism from California State University Northridge. He has been writing for print and web publications for more than twenty years, covering a wide range of topics including: business, technology, parenting, politics, education, sports and religion. That is far too serious so I prefer to use something like: The Jack B. is a writer and author of 39 unpublished books and three screenplays. A former athlete and would be superhero he still fights for truth, justice and the American Way. Though he may look like a grown man, don’t fool yourself he is still a boy at heart. When he is not engaged in Walter Mitty like fantasies he is a husband, father and friend and blogs at TheJackB. Hmm…obviously I have since moved from Random Thoughts over to this place, but that is ok. This page is a work in progress which is a good description for me. I’ll probably tweak this on a regular basis so feel free to keep checking back in because you never know what might show up. I am a prolific writer and update frequently so don’t forget to scroll down the page to see what nugget of wisdom you just might have missed. Here is a short selection of posts to get you started. A Father Describes Parenting A Father’s Burden How Sister’s Helped to Train A Father of “Daddy’s Girl” Inside the Blogger’s Studio- A Dream, Er Nightmare The GermoPhobe What I Dream About I am In Love Becoming a Dad Dad’s Most Important Job A Decade of Dad Grandpa Donuts Why Your Post Sucks and Everyone Hates Your Blog A Letter To My Children- Things That Matter A Letter To My Children-2011 Dad Balances Fear Versus Reality Q&A With Daddy Blogger JackB Save The Last Dance For Me- 75 Years of Marriage An Uncertain Certainty Four Generations & A Wedding The Best Thing My Father Ever Said To Me 1 Foolproof Way To Become a Better Writer The Story Of A House- The Final Days He Died A Hero Twenty-Five Links That Will Make You A Better Writer/Blogger Thanks for coming by, I hope you like it. If you want to reach me use the contact form or try talk-to-jacknow-at-gmail-dotcom You can also find more information by clicking About Me and reading my profile there. Also, I encourage you to sign up for my newsletter using the form on the top right hand side of the page.
      Josh says:

      Hi Tim,

      Welcome to the blog. I am biased but I have found that linking to other blogs is very effective. The most important part of that is to make sure you are adding value.

      If you do that well it yields dividends because the blogger you link to will be more likely to let your link stand on their end. They won’t see you as being some obnoxious spammer and they’ll show some interest in your blog,

      I absolutely agree with you about not running before you can walk. The process takes as long as it takes. Sometimes it is frustrating that it can’t be done faster, but is just how it goes sometimes.

      I understand your concern about commenting systems. Ideally I prefer one that just lets you comment without any sort of restriction.Using the native WP system with CommentLuv is definitely a good way to go.

      What I like about DISQUS is that you can follow others and be followed. I think it is a useful tool that helps to build community which is why I installed it here.

      Thank you again. Hope to see you real soon.

  3. Geoff Livingston – Washington, DC – A digital marketing pioneer and social fundraiser, I help brands and nonprofits launch products, enact corporate initiatives, and raise money. In addition to my works for brands, I wrote three books on social media and marketing, including Welcome to the Fifth Estate, and have spoken at numerous national and international marketing conferences. I started and sold social media boutique Livingston Communications (2009). Projects I have worked on won awards from the Society of New Communications Research, the American Marketing Association, the International Association of Business Communicators, MarketingProfs, and an Axiom Award. The social fundraising projects I have worked on have raised more than $225 million online.
    geofflivingston says:

    Consistency, consistency, consistency. That’s all I can add to this. Thank you for including me.

    BTW< don't you love the new Disqus system?

    1. TheJackB – Someone complained that this page doesn’t tell you what to expect to find here in this blog so I aim to rectify this with the next line. I am a father who writes about life, parenting, business, politics and fiction. I don’t use an editorial calendar because I don’t map out what I am going to write that far in advance. The primary focus will be on things that relate to children and parenting. But the nifty thing about that is that encompasses a wide range of things. Sometimes I work with companies on their PR/Marketing efforts. If they provide products or services I will disclose it. Here is an incomplete list of companies that I am currently or have recently worked with: Nintendo, Philips Norelco, Subway, Frigidaire and Mattel. Want to know more about me, keep reading. If I wanted to provide a professional description it would looks similar to this: Jack has a Bachelor of Arts degree in journalism from California State University Northridge. He has been writing for print and web publications for more than twenty years, covering a wide range of topics including: business, technology, parenting, politics, education, sports and religion. That is far too serious so I prefer to use something like: The Jack B. is a writer and author of 39 unpublished books and three screenplays. A former athlete and would be superhero he still fights for truth, justice and the American Way. Though he may look like a grown man, don’t fool yourself he is still a boy at heart. When he is not engaged in Walter Mitty like fantasies he is a husband, father and friend and blogs at TheJackB. Hmm…obviously I have since moved from Random Thoughts over to this place, but that is ok. This page is a work in progress which is a good description for me. I’ll probably tweak this on a regular basis so feel free to keep checking back in because you never know what might show up. I am a prolific writer and update frequently so don’t forget to scroll down the page to see what nugget of wisdom you just might have missed. Here is a short selection of posts to get you started. A Father Describes Parenting A Father’s Burden How Sister’s Helped to Train A Father of “Daddy’s Girl” Inside the Blogger’s Studio- A Dream, Er Nightmare The GermoPhobe What I Dream About I am In Love Becoming a Dad Dad’s Most Important Job A Decade of Dad Grandpa Donuts Why Your Post Sucks and Everyone Hates Your Blog A Letter To My Children- Things That Matter A Letter To My Children-2011 Dad Balances Fear Versus Reality Q&A With Daddy Blogger JackB Save The Last Dance For Me- 75 Years of Marriage An Uncertain Certainty Four Generations & A Wedding The Best Thing My Father Ever Said To Me 1 Foolproof Way To Become a Better Writer The Story Of A House- The Final Days He Died A Hero Twenty-Five Links That Will Make You A Better Writer/Blogger Thanks for coming by, I hope you like it. If you want to reach me use the contact form or try talk-to-jacknow-at-gmail-dotcom You can also find more information by clicking About Me and reading my profile there. Also, I encourage you to sign up for my newsletter using the form on the top right hand side of the page.
      Josh says:

      @geofflivingston:disqus

      Consistency is really important. I have seen a lot of bloggers fall apart because they couldn’t publish with any sort of consistency that people could follow.

      Yeah, the new DISQUS is among the best I have seen. Interface is pretty easy to use and it comes with a lot of nice features.

  4. My take? It takes as long as it takes. When we build with integrity, consistency, caring and genuine interest, the people who resonate with our messages will not only become a part of “community”, they’ll usually invite others to join the party. And even though it’s an up and down roller coaster ride, and even when it’s the dog days of summer and everyone seems to have disappeared, we need to stay the course. You’re a good reminder to do just that. Cheers! Kaarina

    1. TheJackB – Someone complained that this page doesn’t tell you what to expect to find here in this blog so I aim to rectify this with the next line. I am a father who writes about life, parenting, business, politics and fiction. I don’t use an editorial calendar because I don’t map out what I am going to write that far in advance. The primary focus will be on things that relate to children and parenting. But the nifty thing about that is that encompasses a wide range of things. Sometimes I work with companies on their PR/Marketing efforts. If they provide products or services I will disclose it. Here is an incomplete list of companies that I am currently or have recently worked with: Nintendo, Philips Norelco, Subway, Frigidaire and Mattel. Want to know more about me, keep reading. If I wanted to provide a professional description it would looks similar to this: Jack has a Bachelor of Arts degree in journalism from California State University Northridge. He has been writing for print and web publications for more than twenty years, covering a wide range of topics including: business, technology, parenting, politics, education, sports and religion. That is far too serious so I prefer to use something like: The Jack B. is a writer and author of 39 unpublished books and three screenplays. A former athlete and would be superhero he still fights for truth, justice and the American Way. Though he may look like a grown man, don’t fool yourself he is still a boy at heart. When he is not engaged in Walter Mitty like fantasies he is a husband, father and friend and blogs at TheJackB. Hmm…obviously I have since moved from Random Thoughts over to this place, but that is ok. This page is a work in progress which is a good description for me. I’ll probably tweak this on a regular basis so feel free to keep checking back in because you never know what might show up. I am a prolific writer and update frequently so don’t forget to scroll down the page to see what nugget of wisdom you just might have missed. Here is a short selection of posts to get you started. A Father Describes Parenting A Father’s Burden How Sister’s Helped to Train A Father of “Daddy’s Girl” Inside the Blogger’s Studio- A Dream, Er Nightmare The GermoPhobe What I Dream About I am In Love Becoming a Dad Dad’s Most Important Job A Decade of Dad Grandpa Donuts Why Your Post Sucks and Everyone Hates Your Blog A Letter To My Children- Things That Matter A Letter To My Children-2011 Dad Balances Fear Versus Reality Q&A With Daddy Blogger JackB Save The Last Dance For Me- 75 Years of Marriage An Uncertain Certainty Four Generations & A Wedding The Best Thing My Father Ever Said To Me 1 Foolproof Way To Become a Better Writer The Story Of A House- The Final Days He Died A Hero Twenty-Five Links That Will Make You A Better Writer/Blogger Thanks for coming by, I hope you like it. If you want to reach me use the contact form or try talk-to-jacknow-at-gmail-dotcom You can also find more information by clicking About Me and reading my profile there. Also, I encourage you to sign up for my newsletter using the form on the top right hand side of the page.
      Josh says:

      Hello my fellow Taurus. We share a lot of things in common. I want to be the last guy standing so slow and steady works for me.

      You touch upon something really important and that is the value of having community members speak on behalf of the writer. There is infinite value in those types of referrals, probably nothing more powerful.

      BTW, I haven’t forgotten about the Y word, just haven’t posted it yet.

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