History Is Written By The Victors

Thirty years ago I almost got caught in the crossfire in a very nasty fight between two men. If I had gotten hurt it would have been my fault for sticking around to watch the fight.

I can’t tell you how it started or whether I would hold one party at fault over the other, but I can tell you why it was so intriguing to me.

The two men were ancient. They were old guys who looked to me like they belonged in some sort of assisted living facility, at least that is how I remember it. Truth is that 30 years ago they might have been 50 and I would have seen them as being old. Perspective is a funny thing sometimes.

What I can tell you for certain is that they were fighting over whether Mickey Mantle was a better player than Joe Dimaggio.

Who Was Better?

I am too young to have watched either man play so I can’t make a decision based upon that. All I can do is review their stats, watch old footage, read old newspaper clips and listen to the stories of those who watched them play.

We can set aside the discussion about what the significance and or importance is of determining who the greatest was and accept that these discussions are timeless and universal.

Thirty years later I listen to my son and his friends debate who the greatest basketball player is and I smile.

I am a diehard Laker fan who came of age during the Showtime era of the ’80s. I watched Magic and Kareem lead the guys to multiple championships. I cursed the Celtics and the pooh poohed the Pistons.

In between it all I slowly came to admit that Michael Jordan was on a different level than the rest. It wasn’t an easy admission and I’ll readily grant that we had multiple discussions about who you build a team around, Magic or Michael.

But those discussions are long since gone and as time passes Jordan’s legacy has been impacted.  The younger generations who didn’t see him play don’t see him in the same way as the older. Sure there are some who for various reasons agree with those who say he was the greatest, but their numbers are a bit thin.

Take a look at the video below. It was made before LeBron James and company won the 2012 NBA championship.  It is pretty clear whose side the author of the video takes, but it does a good job of illustrating that time passes and memoriesare impacted

History is not just written by the victors. It is also written by those who remember.

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By Joshua Wilner

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  1. First, let’s see if I can actually leave a comment on this article. Second, let’s see if you’ll even know that I left a comment here after all these years. 🙂

    What’s funny is that you can look at that video, then realize it’s almost 12 years ago since it came about, and look at what LeBron’s achieved since then, even at his current age, still dominating players much younger than he is. I’m also a Lakers fan through and through, but I’ve never hated even a second on LeBron James, whereas it took me a while to warm up to Jordan, and even when he was the most dominant player in the league I never fawned over him. We all like and love who we like and love, sports, music, life… that’s all that matters. 🙂

    1. TheJackB – Someone complained that this page doesn’t tell you what to expect to find here in this blog so I aim to rectify this with the next line. I am a father who writes about life, parenting, business, politics and fiction. I don’t use an editorial calendar because I don’t map out what I am going to write that far in advance. The primary focus will be on things that relate to children and parenting. But the nifty thing about that is that encompasses a wide range of things. Sometimes I work with companies on their PR/Marketing efforts. If they provide products or services I will disclose it. Here is an incomplete list of companies that I am currently or have recently worked with: Nintendo, Philips Norelco, Subway, Frigidaire and Mattel. Want to know more about me, keep reading. If I wanted to provide a professional description it would looks similar to this: Jack has a Bachelor of Arts degree in journalism from California State University Northridge. He has been writing for print and web publications for more than twenty years, covering a wide range of topics including: business, technology, parenting, politics, education, sports and religion. That is far too serious so I prefer to use something like: The Jack B. is a writer and author of 39 unpublished books and three screenplays. A former athlete and would be superhero he still fights for truth, justice and the American Way. Though he may look like a grown man, don’t fool yourself he is still a boy at heart. When he is not engaged in Walter Mitty like fantasies he is a husband, father and friend and blogs at TheJackB. Hmm…obviously I have since moved from Random Thoughts over to this place, but that is ok. This page is a work in progress which is a good description for me. I’ll probably tweak this on a regular basis so feel free to keep checking back in because you never know what might show up. I am a prolific writer and update frequently so don’t forget to scroll down the page to see what nugget of wisdom you just might have missed. Here is a short selection of posts to get you started. A Father Describes Parenting A Father’s Burden How Sister’s Helped to Train A Father of “Daddy’s Girl” Inside the Blogger’s Studio- A Dream, Er Nightmare The GermoPhobe What I Dream About I am In Love Becoming a Dad Dad’s Most Important Job A Decade of Dad Grandpa Donuts Why Your Post Sucks and Everyone Hates Your Blog A Letter To My Children- Things That Matter A Letter To My Children-2011 Dad Balances Fear Versus Reality Q&A With Daddy Blogger JackB Save The Last Dance For Me- 75 Years of Marriage An Uncertain Certainty Four Generations & A Wedding The Best Thing My Father Ever Said To Me 1 Foolproof Way To Become a Better Writer The Story Of A House- The Final Days He Died A Hero Twenty-Five Links That Will Make You A Better Writer/Blogger Thanks for coming by, I hope you like it. If you want to reach me use the contact form or try talk-to-jacknow-at-gmail-dotcom You can also find more information by clicking About Me and reading my profile there. Also, I encourage you to sign up for my newsletter using the form on the top right hand side of the page.
      Joshua Wilner says:

      It is almost 12 years since I first posted this and yes, there is a wealth of new material on Lebron.

      At the time I wrote this I didn’t think he would accomplish all that he has and I have to give him credit, especially with what he is doing now.

      I have absolutely come to appreciate him and his ability in a way that I didn’t and not just because he is a Laker.

      FWIW, I don’t think Jordan and the Bulls would have dominated the way they did if they had played during that 80s period with the Lakers and Celtics.

      Jordan, was around for part of it, but even if he had that surrounding cast I don’t think they had enough to surpass those teams year in and year out.

      Lebron could have played during those years and been among the dominant players as well.

      This is the ‘interesting’ and sometimes fun part of sports talk where you think about what certain players could do in different eras. Especially when you take great players who didn’t have access to all of the advanced training and medicine today…

      1. TheJackB – Someone complained that this page doesn’t tell you what to expect to find here in this blog so I aim to rectify this with the next line. I am a father who writes about life, parenting, business, politics and fiction. I don’t use an editorial calendar because I don’t map out what I am going to write that far in advance. The primary focus will be on things that relate to children and parenting. But the nifty thing about that is that encompasses a wide range of things. Sometimes I work with companies on their PR/Marketing efforts. If they provide products or services I will disclose it. Here is an incomplete list of companies that I am currently or have recently worked with: Nintendo, Philips Norelco, Subway, Frigidaire and Mattel. Want to know more about me, keep reading. If I wanted to provide a professional description it would looks similar to this: Jack has a Bachelor of Arts degree in journalism from California State University Northridge. He has been writing for print and web publications for more than twenty years, covering a wide range of topics including: business, technology, parenting, politics, education, sports and religion. That is far too serious so I prefer to use something like: The Jack B. is a writer and author of 39 unpublished books and three screenplays. A former athlete and would be superhero he still fights for truth, justice and the American Way. Though he may look like a grown man, don’t fool yourself he is still a boy at heart. When he is not engaged in Walter Mitty like fantasies he is a husband, father and friend and blogs at TheJackB. Hmm…obviously I have since moved from Random Thoughts over to this place, but that is ok. This page is a work in progress which is a good description for me. I’ll probably tweak this on a regular basis so feel free to keep checking back in because you never know what might show up. I am a prolific writer and update frequently so don’t forget to scroll down the page to see what nugget of wisdom you just might have missed. Here is a short selection of posts to get you started. A Father Describes Parenting A Father’s Burden How Sister’s Helped to Train A Father of “Daddy’s Girl” Inside the Blogger’s Studio- A Dream, Er Nightmare The GermoPhobe What I Dream About I am In Love Becoming a Dad Dad’s Most Important Job A Decade of Dad Grandpa Donuts Why Your Post Sucks and Everyone Hates Your Blog A Letter To My Children- Things That Matter A Letter To My Children-2011 Dad Balances Fear Versus Reality Q&A With Daddy Blogger JackB Save The Last Dance For Me- 75 Years of Marriage An Uncertain Certainty Four Generations & A Wedding The Best Thing My Father Ever Said To Me 1 Foolproof Way To Become a Better Writer The Story Of A House- The Final Days He Died A Hero Twenty-Five Links That Will Make You A Better Writer/Blogger Thanks for coming by, I hope you like it. If you want to reach me use the contact form or try talk-to-jacknow-at-gmail-dotcom You can also find more information by clicking About Me and reading my profile there. Also, I encourage you to sign up for my newsletter using the form on the top right hand side of the page.
        Joshua Wilner says:

        If Anthony Davis could stay healthy and engaged he could be a huge asset for LeBron. A.D. is a beast, but they could use a consistent third player.

        It would be better to have more depth than that, but like you pointed out Miami proved that you can run three. Of course it didn’t hurt that Bron was a chunk of years and games younger.

        Can’t beat time, catches up to all of us eventually.

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